Comments on: One of the Largest eBay Scams Finally Comes to an End http://fourpastfour.com/2010/02/24/one-of-the-largest-ebay-scams-finally-comes-to-an-end/ Ideas Not Lost Wed, 02 May 2012 23:54:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: William Gonzalez http://fourpastfour.com/2010/02/24/one-of-the-largest-ebay-scams-finally-comes-to-an-end/comment-page-2/#comment-142109 William Gonzalez Wed, 02 May 2012 23:54:05 +0000 http://fourpastfour.com/?p=1109#comment-142109 Here is how EBAY Buyers abroad get FREE STUFF International Shipping Scam tolerated by EBAY BUYER PROTECTION Here is how the Scam works Seller place item on EBAY International Buyer wins item and pays for item plus S&H You print international postage and custom forms from EBAY and get a tracking number starting with two letters and followed by numbers You Ship item thru USPS LOOK AND BEWARE USPS accepts item Item makes it all the way to Jamaica NY, 11430 USPS Origin Sort Facility NOW USPS Tracking number stops here Tracking numbers that starts with letters do not require scanning or tracking by destination Country Postal Service Item is now en route to destination HERE IS THE SCAM Buyer waits a couple of weeks Buyer place a claim to EBAY RESOLUTION CENTER stating he did not receive item even if they did receive the item in question EBAY Resolution Center contact Seller to provide USPS Tracking Number Tracking Number shows final destination as Jamaica, NJ USPS Origin Sort Facility EBAY Resolution Center will never receive a tracking confirmation from destination and will never receive proof of delivery even if item has arrived to destination. Case is closed in FAVOR of Buyer because tracking number can not be accounted for after Jamaica, NJ , USPS Origin Sort Facility Buyer gets back FULL amount they paid plus S&H Buyer Gets Items for FREE and All Money Back Seller is out of Item and Money EBAY Resolution Center answer to this is that Seller should have had the item insured and registered EBAY Resolution Center do not control any part of the shipping process that is “ conveniently” located on it's website. Tracking number is absolutely USELESS EBAY BUYER PROTECTION will close claim on BUYERS FAVOR knowing this SCAM is HAPPENING USPS do not have any mechanism in place for you to file a CLAIM for stuff sold internationally Seller is SCREWED Creatureunlimited Lost $39.45 DO NOT BE THE NEXT VICTEM Here is how EBAY Buyers abroad get FREE STUFF

International Shipping Scam tolerated by EBAY BUYER PROTECTION

Here is how the Scam works

Seller place item on EBAY
International Buyer wins item and pays for item plus S&H
You print international postage and custom forms from EBAY and get a tracking number starting with two letters and followed by numbers
You Ship item thru USPS

LOOK AND BEWARE

USPS accepts item
Item makes it all the way to Jamaica NY, 11430 USPS Origin Sort Facility
NOW USPS Tracking number stops here
Tracking numbers that starts with letters do not require scanning or tracking by destination Country Postal Service
Item is now en route to destination

HERE IS THE SCAM

Buyer waits a couple of weeks
Buyer place a claim to EBAY RESOLUTION CENTER stating he did not receive item
even if they did receive the item in question
EBAY Resolution Center contact Seller to provide USPS Tracking Number
Tracking Number shows final destination as Jamaica, NJ USPS Origin Sort Facility
EBAY Resolution Center will never receive a tracking confirmation from destination and will never receive proof of delivery even if item has arrived to destination.
Case is closed in FAVOR of Buyer because tracking number can not be accounted for after Jamaica, NJ , USPS Origin Sort Facility
Buyer gets back FULL amount they paid plus S&H

Buyer Gets Items for FREE and All Money Back

Seller is out of Item and Money

EBAY Resolution Center answer to this is that Seller should have had the item insured and registered
EBAY Resolution Center do not control any part of the shipping process that is “ conveniently” located on it’s website.
Tracking number is absolutely USELESS
EBAY BUYER PROTECTION will close claim on BUYERS FAVOR knowing this SCAM is HAPPENING
USPS do not have any mechanism in place for you to file a CLAIM for stuff sold internationally

Seller is SCREWED

Creatureunlimited Lost $39.45

DO NOT BE THE NEXT VICTEM

]]> By: Joshua Edwards http://fourpastfour.com/2010/02/24/one-of-the-largest-ebay-scams-finally-comes-to-an-end/comment-page-2/#comment-127807 Joshua Edwards Tue, 06 Mar 2012 04:53:12 +0000 http://fourpastfour.com/?p=1109#comment-127807 I recently sold on eBay. 100% feedback, Top Rated Seller status, impeccable policy compliance and multitudes of return customers. Sounds great doesn't it. Well you'd be wrong. I will never, ever, sell on eBay again. Within the space of 2 days, despite the above, I ended in closing my account due to eBay's appalling behavior in refusing to punish members inflating item prices by falsely reporting them claiming they are in violation of eBay terms of use and as such colluding in what I interpret to be fraud. I had an item removed in such a manner, then spent 4 hours on the phone with eBay before finally getting it re-instated and forcing eBay to issue an email admitting fault. I then filed a complaint against those members who had submitted false information in order to get the item removed in the first place, due to the fact it was competing at a lower price than those that had themselves listed. EBay's response? Nothing. And not just nothing, much worse. Not only did they refuse to punish the people responsible for trying to damage my reputation, they then threatened me with policy violations when I had the nerve to author an eBay guide which informed others of what had occurred. Apparently eBay only cares about providing a safe and informed environment when it isn't their own level of safety or the lack of enforcing policy bought into question. I was contacted with a message from eBay Trust & Saftey (what a joke) informing me that if I didn't remove or edit the guide I would be hit with policy violations (despite the fact that the information contained within it was 100% true and accurate) a message I interpreted to be a form of blackmail. When I refused to comply they did indeed issue multiple violations, effectively destroying my business. And this again despite a spotless record, 100% feedback and Top Rated Seller status. To say I'm disgusted doesn't even come close. They refuse to punish long term members engaged in fraudulent behavior, thus in effect colluding in it, punish those who speak out, then claim in messages to the innocent party they are only acting in the best interest of eBay as a whole. My advice, never buy anything on eBay again. You are simply getting ripped of by a company and selling environment that cares nothing for honesty or integrity. I recently sold on eBay. 100% feedback, Top Rated Seller status, impeccable policy compliance and multitudes of return customers. Sounds great doesn’t it. Well you’d be wrong. I will never, ever, sell on eBay again. Within the space of 2 days, despite the above, I ended in closing my account due to eBay’s appalling behavior in refusing to punish members inflating item prices by falsely reporting them claiming they are in violation of eBay terms of use and as such colluding in what I interpret to be fraud. I had an item removed in such a manner, then spent 4 hours on the phone with eBay before finally getting it re-instated and forcing eBay to issue an email admitting fault. I then filed a complaint against those members who had submitted false information in order to get the item removed in the first place, due to the fact it was competing at a lower price than those that had themselves listed. EBay’s response? Nothing. And not just nothing, much worse. Not only did they refuse to punish the people responsible for trying to damage my reputation, they then threatened me with policy violations when I had the nerve to author an eBay guide which informed others of what had occurred. Apparently eBay only cares about providing a safe and informed environment when it isn’t their own level of safety or the lack of enforcing policy bought into question. I was contacted with a message from eBay Trust & Saftey (what a joke) informing me that if I didn’t remove or edit the guide I would be hit with policy violations (despite the fact that the information contained within it was 100% true and accurate) a message I interpreted to be a form of blackmail. When I refused to comply they did indeed issue multiple violations, effectively destroying my business. And this again despite a spotless record, 100% feedback and Top Rated Seller status. To say I’m disgusted doesn’t even come close. They refuse to punish long term members engaged in fraudulent behavior, thus in effect colluding in it, punish those who speak out, then claim in messages to the innocent party they are only acting in the best interest of eBay as a whole. My advice, never buy anything on eBay again. You are simply getting ripped of by a company and selling environment that cares nothing for honesty or integrity.

]]> By: Eric http://fourpastfour.com/2010/02/24/one-of-the-largest-ebay-scams-finally-comes-to-an-end/comment-page-2/#comment-124709 Eric Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:02:48 +0000 http://fourpastfour.com/?p=1109#comment-124709 Ebay does take fraud serious , you can read lately how many sellers accounts have been cancelled, restricted,etc for "bad business practices" . Paypal and ebay are trying to "make a safe selling environment" I take responsibility for my error and have lost a great opportunity by being kicked off. My selling privileges were ended by ebay and I did do something wrong, but I think there should have been some grace or perhaps a suspension. Permanently ending my selling seems harsh to me . I buy from pawn shops, flea markets liquidators, used and broken things and can not always provide receipts for everything I sell. Ebay has become strict with their monitoring of sellers (if someone complains) . Their judgement is final like God's. (glad its just my selling privileges) during my time on ebay I have been ripped off by unethical buyers too. Its buyer and seller beware in this world , more so on the internet than in face to face deals. Ebay does take fraud serious , you can read lately how many sellers accounts have been cancelled, restricted,etc for “bad business practices” .
Paypal and ebay are trying to “make a safe selling environment”
I take responsibility for my error and have lost a great opportunity by being kicked off.
My selling privileges were ended by ebay and I did do something wrong, but I think there should have been some grace or perhaps a suspension. Permanently ending my selling seems harsh to me . I buy from pawn shops, flea markets liquidators, used and broken things and can not always provide receipts for everything I sell. Ebay has become strict with their monitoring of sellers (if someone complains) .
Their judgement is final like God’s. (glad its just my selling privileges)
during my time on ebay I have been ripped off by unethical buyers too.
Its buyer and seller beware in this world , more so on the internet than in face to face deals.

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]]> By: Rob http://fourpastfour.com/2010/02/24/one-of-the-largest-ebay-scams-finally-comes-to-an-end/comment-page-1/#comment-112961 Rob Thu, 05 Jan 2012 11:31:25 +0000 http://fourpastfour.com/?p=1109#comment-112961 Good points xpaypal, eBay and PayPal are complict in the crimes that are committed through their business. And that if these same offences were committed at your local department store, the directors of would have some lengthy jail time. In addition, eBay & PayPal still take commissions on fraudulent transactions, meaning that they are knowingly profiting from the proceeds of a criminal offence. I wonder how much this adds up to? Anyone up for starting criminal proceedings against the Directors of eBay and PayPal? Good points xpaypal,

eBay and PayPal are complict in the crimes that are committed through their business. And that if these same offences were committed at your local department store, the directors of would have some lengthy jail time.

In addition, eBay & PayPal still take commissions on fraudulent transactions, meaning that they are knowingly profiting from the proceeds of a criminal offence. I wonder how much this adds up to?

Anyone up for starting criminal proceedings against the Directors of eBay and PayPal?

]]> By: John J Hallinan http://fourpastfour.com/2010/02/24/one-of-the-largest-ebay-scams-finally-comes-to-an-end/comment-page-1/#comment-97885 John J Hallinan Mon, 14 Nov 2011 04:25:46 +0000 http://fourpastfour.com/?p=1109#comment-97885 I know tons of sellers who use SHILL accounts, EBAY will not do anything to stop them. Notice how the Post Office had to finally investigate? I maintain numerous accounts on EBAY, and as long as I make enough money for EBAY in fees - they will never take any action against me. It is a cold hard fact! Use EBAY at your own risk, or stop by my store to complete your collection I know tons of sellers who use SHILL accounts, EBAY will not do anything to stop them. Notice how the Post Office had to finally investigate?

I maintain numerous accounts on EBAY, and as long as I make enough money for EBAY in fees – they will never take any action against me. It is a cold hard fact!

Use EBAY at your own risk, or stop by my store to complete your collection

]]> By: 24-7swords http://fourpastfour.com/2010/02/24/one-of-the-largest-ebay-scams-finally-comes-to-an-end/comment-page-1/#comment-81021 24-7swords Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:40:58 +0000 http://fourpastfour.com/?p=1109#comment-81021 Customer bought item and we ship it to him. His address was incorrect. Here is the address: EC642747245US. It was shipped with USPS. He lost the case with eBay and paypal because he did not provide us with the correct addess. I told him he will be getting a refund on his item once we receive it back in our hands and he still did not believe. Customer bought item and we ship it to him. His address was incorrect. Here is the address: EC642747245US. It was shipped with USPS. He lost the case with eBay and paypal because he did not provide us with the correct addess. I told him he will be getting a refund on his item once we receive it back in our hands and he still did not believe.

]]> By: Mike http://fourpastfour.com/2010/02/24/one-of-the-largest-ebay-scams-finally-comes-to-an-end/comment-page-1/#comment-80879 Mike Thu, 08 Sep 2011 07:19:00 +0000 http://fourpastfour.com/?p=1109#comment-80879 eBAY fraud can go a long way. I have been receiving tens of items regularly. I order an item from 24-7swords. AFTER a month the item is returned back due to “address not verified”. The item is SHOWN to be on its way back to seller via standard tracking yet the seller will NOT refund me. Reason? He needs item in his hands although he knows it IS on the way back to him. What did I do wrong? I DID NOT FILE A REPORT WITHIN 45 DAYS BECAUSE I TRUSTED THE FRAUDELENT SELLER!!!! Check the fraud out and NEVER buy from here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/260811857917?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2648#ht_2918wt_952 eBAY fraud can go a long way.
I have been receiving tens of items regularly.

I order an item from 24-7swords. AFTER a month the item is returned back due to “address not verified”. The item is SHOWN to be on its way back to seller via standard tracking yet the seller will NOT refund me. Reason? He needs item in his hands although he knows it IS on the way back to him.

What did I do wrong? I DID NOT FILE A REPORT WITHIN 45 DAYS BECAUSE I TRUSTED THE FRAUDELENT SELLER!!!!

Check the fraud out and NEVER buy from here:

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]]> By: Ayrtzk http://fourpastfour.com/2010/02/24/one-of-the-largest-ebay-scams-finally-comes-to-an-end/comment-page-1/#comment-71851 Ayrtzk Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:28:28 +0000 http://fourpastfour.com/?p=1109#comment-71851 Anybody who lost money on Ebay, Paypal(even a little) should report it as loses then filling tax declaration to IRS. These steps can make the company more fairly to customers. Anybody who lost money on Ebay, Paypal(even a little) should report it as loses then filling tax declaration to IRS. These steps can make the company more fairly to customers.

]]> By: virginia seo consultant http://fourpastfour.com/2010/02/24/one-of-the-largest-ebay-scams-finally-comes-to-an-end/comment-page-1/#comment-55379 virginia seo consultant Sun, 29 May 2011 23:39:31 +0000 http://fourpastfour.com/?p=1109#comment-55379 Very rarely are these scammers brought to justice. Sometimes they even beat you on paypal by actually shipping a box with garbage inside to prove they sent something your way. Very rarely are these scammers brought to justice. Sometimes they even beat you on paypal by actually shipping a box with garbage inside to prove they sent something your way.

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